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SubstanceSubstance - Discussions - Re: Why Adobe?
 on: January 27, 2019, 10:35:51 pm 
This is my first post. I have been in the industry as a professional, hobbyist, independant contractor and teacher. Adobe has historically made bad decisions. They have poor software support and do not really update their toolset. Their autopay system is crap. If there was another 2d program comparable to photoshop i would never ever use them again. I say buy substance designer 6 and painter 2 standalone and be thankful for the last few years we actually had good software for a PBR workflow.  :'( ill miss you guys..

Check out Affinity Photo, it has a low one-time license fee. As for Adobe, I understand people's reactions, but let's wait, don't bash on it just yet, give these guys a chance to show us they are doing the right move. Later on down the road, if it doesn't work out, then consider alternatives, but don't quit without knowing the roadmap, which I'm assuming will have to pop out there soon. I have faith in the team behind Allegorithmic

I've only subscribed for 4 months if I'm not mistaken, and I've always got the emails about license changes. You should have asked for those licenses when you reached the goals, but if you email support, I'm sure they won't mind giving you that old license, plus the newest version if you pay the last 49$. But as for paying for 4 years or so, you weren't being ripped off, you forget you kept getting the updates, and that ends after you pay the last one to get a perpetual license. You kept paying, but also kept getting updates, remember that, as it's how it works in any rent-to-own model, if you end up owning the license, your updates are usually limited to one more year, and then if you want to get the new versions, you need to restart you payments from scratch.

SubstanceSubstance - Purchases & Licenses - Re: How to cancel?
 on: January 25, 2019, 04:01:04 pm 
This is only a part of it, and I hope this doesn't breach any agreement, but here, sent on May 4th, 2017:

"Even though major versions will no longer exist, you can still purchase a permanent license of the current release for $49 once you have completed at least 12 consecutive months of payments." - Mods: If I'm not allowed to post this here, please remove it, thank you and sorry.

Also, I understand people are worried about the news, I'm too, as a user who dropped Photoshop in favor of Affinity Photo's one-time payment of 40$ and wanted to start using Painter in the Q1 of this year, but that's not a reason to panic. For the moment, the pricing is said to be unchanged, and if this ends up changing to a point a user doesn't want a new different commitment, I'm sure they'll give the users a nice alternative to keep a permanent license for example. Adobe is not a bad company, on the contrary, it's at the top of its market, my only reason for not choosing Photoshop is that, though it might seem an insignificant value, a lot of tools are turning to rent only, and 20$ here, 30$ there, plus 50$ for this, and 40$ for that, every month, it starts to pile up, so artists need to make some software choices. But Photoshop is amazing, I have nothing against Adobe. Just wait for more information, don't jump the ship just yet.

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