Author Topic: Surface Pro 2 Running Substance Painter.  (Read 8299 times)

I was reading here and hopeful I surface Pro 2 would be fine for running Substance Painter. SO I bought one. Wes even said that HD4000+ is supported.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/273390/discussions/0/626329820647416154/#p2

I installed the latest Intel HD 4400 Drivers (10/3/2014    15.36.7.64.3960) and everything works but Substance Painter It crashes outright every time I try it. V1.1.1 Via Steam.                                 

I turned on all the performance options available for the HD4400 and put the laptop in performance mode.

All other programs work but the one I really want/need and that's Substance Painter.


Ok this is strange. I tried the previous version 1.0 from my account download and it worked. Then went back to download the latest versions just to test them also. While they were downloading I tried the latest steam version and it worked just fine. Go figure? Dunno what happened but I'm happy as a pig in mud right now. Hopefully it keeps working.

Ok this is strange. I tried the previous version 1.0 from my account download and it worked. Then went back to download the latest versions just to test them also. While they were downloading I tried the latest steam version and it worked just fine. Go figure? Dunno what happened but I'm happy as a pig in mud right now. Hopefully it keeps working.

Cool! Glad its working. I have SP running on an Surface Pro 3 using the intel HD 4400.

Cheers,

Wes
Head of Substance Demo Art Team
the3dninja@adobe.com
Twitter: The3DNinja

It runs incredibly well for integrated graphics. I got the Surface Pro 2 8GB Ram 256GB I-4300u Surface. I really like the 1080p Res, nothing is to small to see or work with. But some scaling would be appreciated ( I know its in the works). The IPS screen is amazing with great pixel density. Maya LT, Photoshop CS5, Unity, Substance Painter/Designer, Bitmap to Material....It all runs great on this little laptop crossover. The best in its class 10.6" that can run all this software like a champ.

You do have to slug through and get the latest Intel Hd 4400 drivers but that was easy once I figured it out from this link wes gave. Even got the HD Graphics control panel working which gives a lot of flexibility and options not available with the crappy Microsoft tweaked HD 4400 drivers which do not have the control panel enabled.

http://lifeisabug.com/installing-latest-intel-hd-graphics-driver-microsoft-surface-pro-pro-2-pro-3/

I dont know what happened before but after installing the V1.0 and running it the steam version kinda fixed itself.
Last Edit: December 30, 2014, 07:11:45 am

FYI Wes turning on hyper V gets rid of the minimum and maximum processor states on all power plans and leaves the processor at 2.5Ghz constantly it sucks a ton of battery. Also turns off the options in the power management for processor power states. Unless your running a VM I would turn it off so the processor can clock down when it needs to. Its unnecessary to have it on for any of the 3D applications. The processor manages itself really well.

With it off I still have high performance available.
Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 04:39:50 am

Wow, I didn't expect SP to run well on an integrated card :)
I already own a Surface Pro 1, but the screen it's a bit too small for my needs. I am actually considering to upgrade to the 3rd one, but I heard the the 4th version might be 14"... Droool

Pants in 2k very smooth with just a smidgen of brush lag but nothing that is bothersome at all. 4k works fine but the lag with the brush is more than I want to work with. Easy enough to just switch it up to 4k when I need to.

I did have to hack the latest Intel HD Graphic drivers on the laptop. Microsoft has there own Intel HD Graphic tweaked drivers for the surface that are extremely outdated and optomized for battery life and not performance.  Used this guide.

http://lifeisabug.com/installing-latest-intel-hd-graphics-driver-microsoft-surface-pro-pro-2-pro-3/
Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 01:08:52 pm

 
FYI Wes turning on hyper V gets rid of the minimum and maximum processor states on all power plans and leaves the processor at 2.5Ghz constantly it sucks a ton of battery. Also turns off the options in the power management for processor power states. Unless your running a VM I would turn it off so the processor can clock down when it needs to. Its unnecessary to have it on for any of the 3D applications. The processor manages itself really well.

With it off I still have high performance available.

Thanks for the info! I do have hyper V off, but I wasn't sure if it needed to be off or on. Luckily I had it off. I enabled it just to get the high performance option.

Cheers,

Wes
Head of Substance Demo Art Team
the3dninja@adobe.com
Twitter: The3DNinja

Is there pressure sensitivity? I may consider using this tablet for drawing and ZBrush

It uses a Wacom digitizer with a Wacom pen and with these drivers you get 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity. I tested it in Photoshop and its amazing.

Feel driver aka WinTab driver
http://us.wacom.com/en/feeldriver/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3gG8TlUVyU

That's for the surface pro 2......the surface pro 3 uses n-trig with 256 levels of pressure. There pen requires batteries also. The SP2 Wacom does not need batteries.

Surface Pro 3 VS Pro 2: Pen comparison (N-Trig VS Wacom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPkzifnJAGg

Speed sculpting with surface pro (with wacom driver)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZcTNVU2Ppc
Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 01:55:19 am

Wow... but how are you able to sculpt with millions of polygons

Its the HD4400 its no slouch. The on die graphics solutions have come really far.

ZBrush uses the CPU, not the GPU, so tablets are actually a viable solution.

The only problem I find with my old Surface Pro 1 is the size of the screen really: classic applications, like zb, are still designed for big screens and desktop experiences.

In a way, Sculptris is a much better sculpting application for a tablet.

To me, having Microsoft developing its own line of tablet-laptops is a HUGE thing, as it may drive the necessary revolution needed for portable machines for artists. Photoshop already is adapting its UI to smaller screens.

Also, while many may dislike the n-trig pen, again, I think M did the right thing ditching the wacom technology: finally we have two competitors and us as users should benefit from it.

There are rumors that the next Surface Pro 4 might even be 14". If that is true, it would solve 2 problems in once: small area and heat (which currently is a limitation from what I know in the SP3... Wes how do you feel about it? Also, I can't find a good video about zbrush running on a SP3... as you're a true Tutorials Master, never thought about making one ? :D )

Btw, Happy New Years guys!!!