Author Topic: Looking for a "Wine" MDL --> Or guidance on SSS in an MDL  (Read 1483 times)

I hope this is a good place to ask this question.

Can anyone direct me to a reasonable "Wine" MDL, or share one with me?  I'm picturing a nice red wine.



I'm working on another project, and before I started hand-creating my own wine material - complete with SSS - I decided to try and find an existing material.  (Actually, I did sort of make a wine material, but it's just by manually tweaking some raw values, nothing as sophisticated as a nice MDL file.)  Sure, it's fun to make my own stuff, but I'm trying to be smart and not go deep into every potential sub-project.  My searches came up empty, but maybe I just don't know the smart places to look.  So I came, here, to where all the experts reside.

On a personal note, I used to spend a lot of time on the forums here, and loved it.  Other priorities in life have pulled me away from my hobbies for many months now.  It's not been anything bad, so don't be concerned, but I'm finally trying to get back to some "me time" and revitalize some of my hobby activities.  Right now I'm working on an animation proof-of-concept, and am rendering with Iray.  Gosh, I'm having to re-learn so much stuff.  I'll get back into Substance Designer and Painter eventually, but wanted to get on with my animation experiment first.
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An update and a modified request for help...


UPDATE:

After not finding a wine MDL, I decided to try making my own.  Long story short, my target application (iClone, by Reallusion) does not support the newer (v1.5) MDL files.  I recently updated my desktop to the latest version of Designer, but fortunately I have not updated Designer on my laptop for a long time, and it will still generate MDL files in the older (v1.3) format, which iClone supports.  The error message I was getting was very misleading, so it took a while to figure that out.


MY MODIFIED PLEA FOR HELP:

My Substance Designer skills are weak, and my "wine" is not turning out at all.

QUESTION - Does anyone have any tips to share about making a nice MDL with sub-surface scattering?  In my case of course I'm looking for a "red wine" look, but what about anything else too, like a wax candle?

I tried both the "Transparent" and "Transluscent" templates.  The "transparent" template helped me make a nice "watered-down grape Kool-Aid" look, but I'm just not getting the look I want.

I don't fundamentally understand some of the behaviors of the base color, absorption color, and what sort of numbers might be reasonable for scattering, etc.  Maybe I shouldn't even use one of the templates.  Random trial-and-error results in 99% error.

Any example files or practical documentation you can direct me to will be greatly appreciated.


QUESTION FOR ALLEGORITHMIC ADOBE:

Is it possible to export a v1.3 formatted MDL file from the newest version of Designer?
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