Author Topic: Allegorithmic is joining the Adobe family (part 1)  (Read 125141 times)

And all the while the evidence was right under our noses....... :)


I have an Indie License which I am planning to convert to a perpetual license.

I have almost 350 points on substance source as of now. If I cancel my subscription and get a perpetual license, will my points go away? or the new ones just won't be added and I can use the existing 350 points as normal?

And all the while the evidence was right under our noses....... :)



So many times I was asking myself for what purpose they've put this here...

This is how I see 3D features by Adobe now... and in the future:

How could you do that?  :o

I hope you look good in your new Lamborghini

I'm actually shocked at some of the earlier comments in this thread, particularly the ones advocating the deaths of Allegorithmic staff. Pretty sickening really. Those people should be ashamed.

I understand that a lot of customers are unhappy with this move, but there is nothing you can do about it - what's done is done. Just stop bleating, grow up and act like the graphics professionals you think you are...

And the harsh fact is, I imagine there will be big changes to come, it doesn't take a genius to work out that once the Substance products get the Creative Suite makover and are fully assimilated, they will no doubt look and feel like every other Adobe product. They will have to fall in line visually or they will stick out like a sore thumb and spoil the marketing aesthetic...

I've been around in this industry since time began... well, perhaps not that long, but since 1991.  I was working as a Web Designer when Adobe acquired Macromedia and as some people have said, products from their stable where assimilated and some were axed - but I really don't think that's what will happen with Substance.

At the end of the day, I'm pleased for Allegorithmic - they have worked hard and deserve financial rewards, in some ways I'm envious of them.

And who knows... even though their products might become 'Adobe-ized' over a period of time, they could still innovate and push forward the boundaries of texture authoring like they have done in the past.

I wish them the best of luck, and I, for one, will stay with them on their journey...

p.s. just please don't axe Substance Source ;)
Last Edit: January 24, 2019, 01:44:48 pm

Faz


After reading through the entire thread I don't really have anything to add that other people have not already said in terms of negativity about Adobe and despair for the future of the software that I really liked. I hate Adobe as much as anyone else because of my own experiences as well as all the reasonable reasons but I'm not going to go an about it.

In the interests of getting over it instead of moping here is a summary of the alternatives for people who don't want to read through the entire thread or spend ages searching around:

BATS a blender add on to be available in a few days:
https://blenderartists.org/t/bats-material-editing-with-layers/1141382/48

Or have procedural texturing built in to blender if the main development fund reaches over 30k its already at 28k:
https://code.blender.org/2018/12/blender-development-fund-projects-for-first-half-2019/

Use COPS(Compositing operators) in Houdini. More technical but potentially much more powerful having access to "for each" loops and other stuff:
https://lesterbanks.com/2018/09/create-texture-generator-houdini/
https://lesterbanks.com/2012/06/introduction-to-houdinis-built-in-compositor/

Materialize. More like a B2M alternative
http://boundingboxsoftware.com/materialize/

That's all that I know of,


Here's a songs about sadness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVYECE48TqM

and one about betrayal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBB_gLKEa5c

Good luck to everyone, to cheer up.

To Sébastien Deguy I hope you one day become the CEO of Adobe maybe then you would be in a position to make things right.


Having cooled off a bit overnight ... good luck to the Allegorithmic team. They seem excited about the change, and maybe they can beat the Adobe trend. I would be happy to go along with it but I just won't go the CC route ever again. :(

I'm actually shocked at some of the earlier comments in this thread, particularly the ones advocating the deaths of Allegorithmic staff. Pretty sickening really. Those people should be ashamed.

I've read every page and didn't see any death threats. Were they removed?

There is currently no change to the licensing models. We will announce new options in the coming months but rest assure that it will be really fair.

If we already own a peretual license will the term "perpetual" change in the future???

 :-[ Having not read all the replies to this news I can't exactly say what 100% support this decision - 1% is probably about right? I agree with most of the ones I've read and feel this is a bad decision for the customers of Allegorithmic.

Being only a recent  hobby user of the package, I feel I may not devote the time to learning Substance. I'll probably look for another option, and agree with a previous post, it's time to switch the financial support to the Blender.org team for the hobby crew, and see what they can offer during the next few years.



I just registered yesterday in order to get free student licence and start learning designer and painter and I see this. I will probably still do it but as soon as your software start shipping with Adobe cancerous garbage bloatware known as creative cloud I am off. Actually when I think about it Adobe will order you to remove free student licences when they introduce cc, because free education has no place in their company policy, so I don't have to think about leaving myself  ;D.

I'm actually shocked at some of the earlier comments in this thread, particularly the ones advocating the deaths of Allegorithmic staff. Pretty sickening really. Those people should be ashamed.

I've read every page and didn't see any death threats. Were they removed?

It's on the top of page 22 by somebody called 'Celessia'... very strong stuff that I personally find sickening. Not death threats, but close enough.

Very sad news for customers. Rule "less competition — more stagnation" works very well.

Well that was fast, since the Adobe news broke. Was logged into Substance Share last night no problem, downloading materials, but now this morning I get this error:

"Sign-in failed! Please make sure your email and password are correct."

Updated my password at the Allegorithmic main site, still can't get in. Did Adobe cut off Substance Share already?