Author Topic: Meet MAT: Justaviking entry  (Read 6389 times)

Be warned...  anyone who has ever paid attention to any of my constructive criticism on this forum is in for a shock.  You'll take one look and exclaim, "I listened to him?"  I spend very little time actually using Substance Painter, and when I do, it's usually exploring little bits of functionality or working on "hard surface" mechanical objects that don't need much of an artist's touch.  So I'm sort of like a short, overweight basketball coach.  I may be able to see and point out some things, but my ability to actually do it myself is quite limited.

With that disclaimer out of the way, I am overdue to share one of the concepts I have.

This one is my "Happy Hippy" MAT.  It's still in the concept phase, and I don't really have an idea yet what I'm going to do with his hair.

Comments are welcome, though it's probably a premature.  After I make more progress, it will be much more fun to get your revenge on me for any comments I might have made on work that greatly surpasses what I am able to produce.  ;)
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At least he looks healthy and happy even at this stage! :-)

Don't worry about this :)
Helpful feedbacks and critiques even not from pro users always good. Any ways artist will choose listen or not.
I always ask my wife what she likes and not when I working:)

For feedbacks it's a bit too early. You did well and you need just continue work.
Good luck :)

Hey, thanks of course for the kind words.
This is a great community here, and I had not fears about posting.
Even "strong criticism" here is never mean-spirited.  It's a very safe and supporting environment here.
Mostly I occasionally like to make it clear that I have no disillusion of my own skill level.  But you are right, even a novice with the tool can still provide some good feedback, and many times it's simply a matter of differing artistic opinions.

Anyhoo...

I thought my hippy needed some flip-flops, and toes.
It's just a concept, but the initial results are encouraging, so I think I'll pursue that a bit further.
(I need to fix his pants, too.  I have an idea I'm excited to try.)
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I updated my Hippy's chain, thanks to the kind generosity of Pavel (Liz00n).
https://forum.allegorithmic.com/index.php?topic=16711.new#msg71892

And I learned a few more things in the process.
Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 03:54:50 am
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Try to lower the spacing a bit. It looks as if there is too much space between different sections.

Try to lower the spacing a bit. It looks as if there is too much space between different sections.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I was so happy I got it to work.
I have bigger issues to work on, but will absolutely put that on the list.  Thanks for the feedback.
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I think I'm saying "Goodbye" to the Happy Hippy.

After some thinking and experimentation, I believe I'll go with one of my other concepts.  Why?  Partly due to "liking another idea" and partly due to time constraints compounded by my innexperience with non-hard surface techniques.

A "HazMAT" guy was always one of the ideas I had.  I loved the word-play of "HazMAT."  More recently I thought about the Monsters Inc. "Child Detection Agency" (CDA) crew.

I still like the Happy Hippy, but I could never come up with an idea for the hair that I liked and that looked decent on the "orb" head.  Also, things like my hippy's toes and flip-flops are fun, but time-consuming for me if I don't want them to look crappy.

I also experimented with a more typical Hazmat suit, full of wrinkles and stuff.  Some of it turned out well, but I'm just so slow at making it look the way I want, it that I'd probably be wrinkling that character for two more weeks.  The CDA people are really fairly simple in many ways, so I think it would be better to do a fair job on a simple character than to work in a panic on something with more artistic detail.

So... my plan is to get this 90% done tonight, do some final touch-up tomorrow, and then I have one last day as a coushion before the deadline.

I'll be doing a lot of work tonight, but here's a start... what do you think?
Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 03:03:49 pm
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Awesome :D
I somehow hadn't seen your post yet until now. The hippy was a nice idea, but I absolutely love the hazMAT idea.
The first picture immediately reminded me of monsters inc. Then when I saw the second picture I knew for sure that's what you are going for.

I hope you won't stick to the monsters inc. suit design to much though. Right now the design still feels a bit 'bland' to be totally honest. Additional details could make the suit a lot more interesting. Some hard surfaces, seems, labels, dirt etc. could go a long way.

Anyway, good luck!

@Eggfruit,

Thanks.

I do plan to dress it up some, adding some height here-and-there, and painting on some hoses and stuff in the back.  Maybe add some creases in the joints, and a couple more stickers.  I have some ideas for the base, too.  But I feel like I'll be able to make a finished product even if it stays on the simpler side of things.

I am totally determined to spend some quality time on my computer tonight, so I hope I'll have a couple good update images before midnight.


P.S.
Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but I'm probably the only person who made a Substance Painter height map in PowerPoint.  I touched it up in GIMP, but I started it in PowerPoint.  I own a lovely copy of DrawPlus X, but I haven't used it for many months, whereas I use PowerPoint almost daily at work and I knew exaclty how to make a circle and control my gradient there.  It's not a real artist's tool, but it was effective.  So I made a "stamp" alpha for the eyes in a few minutes.  The red lense didn't work out very well, so I simply stamped over that part again using the "Shape Ball" alpha.
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FYI...

Rewinding slightly, here is one of my tests for a HazMATT (non-Monsters Inc.) theme.  I wasn't sure what sort of face to put in there, maybe an out-of-focus "real" face.

Anyhoo... I have to get back to my CDC guy.
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Making progress...

My son didn't like the green ring (it used to have more emissivity, as an experiment).  He has a point, since the real CDA guys don't have that.  However, I'm leaving myself room for some "artistic freedom" because I don't want it to be all one color for the "Meet MAT" project.  Not quite sure what color(s) I will add, or where, but it will stay pretty simple anyway.

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Really cool :)

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Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but I'm probably the only person who made a Substance Painter height map in PowerPoint.
HAHA! That's awesome. I don't even know how that would work. But hey, if it sounds stupid, but it does the job, it aint stupid.

I can kinda see why your son doesn't like the green. It is a bit of a gross shade of green. Then again, it does have a 'radioactive' feel to it, which is fitting for the concept.

Love the HazMat entry!

In an earlier post you have a smiley face on MAT that seems to have height details but a reflective layer over it that looks like clear glass as it is not being affected by the height. I am trying to do that for my entry. I have a carbon fiber pattern as the height on a layer and the layer above should be a clear coat. Very shiny but the reflectance should not be affected by the height details below.

If you could take a look at the screen shot I have attached that would be great. Once again the idea is that I don't want the specular or reflective highlight to be broken up by the height details below.

I have tried various blending modes and masks but nothing seems to get me the affect I want. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Vince